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How do we convince people that Obama is not the answer?

Obama is up 10 points in the poll, but many of Obama's supporters don't know the issues or where he stands.  They just want 'Change'.  So how do we convince them what the right kind of 'Change' is...Here's what I do.

I typically ask what the most important issue is, to them.
After we get passed the 'Change' garbage and get to what kind of change, a couple of things come to the forefront.

Gas prices:  So I ask them if they think building Nuclear Power Plants, more refineries and drilling offshore would be a step in the right direction or the wrong direction.  Sometimes they counter with: this will take 3-5 years to make any impact, and I normally answer that we should have done this 10 years ago.  They typically agree.  Then I explain that Obama does not want to drill here, is against building refineries and is against nuclear power.  So, after 4 or 8 years of an Obama Presidency, will we be better off without having built Nuclear Power Plants and refineries or drilling offshore?

War in Iraq:  This one is difficult, but I am usually at an advantage because I spent 14 months in the Persian Gulf.  I ask them what they hate most about the War in Iraq.  They usually answer either loss of lives or increasing costs.  For loss of lives, it's easy to counter that violent crime in New York or Washington D.C. is higher than that of Iraq.  That usually shocks them.  For increasing costs, I try to help them see it as an investment for a safer middle east, a safer country for those that are there, and a safer United States.  The war in Iraq helps concentrate the people who want to hurt us overseas, rather than on Main Street.  It helps with the recent release that with the new biometrics they are identifying at least 1 person out of every 100 terrorists/enemy combatants that are being captured in overseas as people having an arrest record HERE, in the United States.  I would personally rather the people who want to hurt us, having left the U.S., and gone to fight us elsewhere, than here.  I also argue that we have not been attacked on American soil since Sept 11.

Budget:  After Iraq, the most prominent thing to come up is how much money we are spending on this war.  While this is true, the entitlement programs that are crippling our economy are much more devestating.  I will ask about the 'Bridge to Nowhere', a 400 million dollar project to build a bridge, to well, nowhere.  Or I will ask about the subsidies that go to corn farmers who turn our food into a fuel which loses energy to produce.  But surely not all Ethanol is bad, right?  No, not all ethanol is bad...sugar based ethanol from sugar cane is incredibly efficient and runs most of Brazils economy.  So, why don't we import that?  We can't.  Our sugar farmers have prohibited the importing of any sugar-based product.  Earmarks ruin our budget.  Special favors for special groups have a huge impact on our economy and our way of life, in the form of more expensive products, higher food costs, food shortages, and even higher gas prices.  John McCain has vowed to veto any bill with earmarks.

Universal Health Care:  This one is easy.  All I have to do is bring up that nearly a third of people doing rehab or skilled surgery in the Northern States are from Canada.  Either because the wait in Canada is too long, or the quality of care is too poor.

Global Warming:  Yeah, I disagree with both McCain and Obama on this one...Until somebody can show me an SUV preserved somewhere that caused the last ice age to end, I'm going to have to go with the 'cycles' theory rather than man-made global warming, but neither candidate is different on this stance.

RKBA/2nd Amendment:  This one is not as easy as it should be.  McCain has not been our best supporter, but the truth is, the President does not have a huge amount of say in what happens on this specific topic.  Far more important, are the kinds of Supreme Court Justices that McCain will nominate vs the kind that Obama will nominate(and easily get through a Democratic Congress).  Just think how much differently the Heller case would have went if we had 1 more justice that was more of Obama's ilk.

Supreme Court Justices:  I ask if they agree with the Supreme Court that a jury cannot sentence a serial child rapists to the death penalty.  If they are interested, I explain the case.  If they are not, I move on.  I also ask them if they think terrorists or enemy combatants who have never set fut on U.S. soil should have the right of Trial by Jury.  Most people are interested and are appalled that the Supreme Court would make such decisions, so I will go into which Justices made which vote.  Then I explain who put those justices into office.  Invariably, most normal people agree with the conservative judges.  I then explain which kind of Justices McCain or Obama would likely appoint.

The Middle Class or the Working Poor:  This one is fairly easy, too.  What do you think is better for the working class?  Higher taxes on the producers of products, therefore higher prices of those products, or less taxes, therefore enabling our American Made Products to compete with the products overseas.  Some will always say that the 'rich' are unfairly benefited by Bush's Tax Cuts, but what it really comes down to, is the 99% of taxes are paid by the top 50% in earners.  As has been shown over time, increasing taxes causes Federal Revenue to go down because people look for tax shelters.  Decreasing taxes causes Federal Revenue to go up because more people are willing to speculate and invest, rather than just save.  It's counterintuitive, which is why people like Obama have been able to confuse people.

In just about every issue that the normal person cares about, McCain is leaps and bounds above Obama.  There is a difference.  While there is room for 'Change', just make sure that the 'change' that you get is the change that YOU want.

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Gun Free Zones obviously don't work...here's why.

 
Possible fixes to 'Gun Free Zones', or as I like to call them, 'Criminal Empowerment Zones', and why they won't work...

Solution 1:  Provide adequate security checkpoints to ensure people cannot come onto the property armed.
Problem:  A campus or mall is too large of an area with too many entrance points. Even with high security fences, unless somebody was stationed every 50 feet, people could still smuggle guns or people across and retrieve the gun after going through the checkpoint.

Solution 2:  Force people to go through a single checkpoint with metal detectors at the entrance.
Problem:  A metal detector with the sensitivity set low enough to detect a gun would also be sensitive enough to go off on keys, change, belt buckles, watches, etc. The time to pass several thousand people through a somewhat adequate security checkpoint can be easily seen at your local airport.  You also run into the same problem as solution #1.  Checkpoints can be bypassed.
 
Solution 3:  Prevent a person who intends to commit a crime from coming on the property.
Problem:  You don't know who is the threat until they have already started because the bad guys look just like the good guys.

Solution 4:  Prosecute people who commit gun related offenses in Gun Free Zones to the fullest extent of the law.
Problem:  Our legal system and even our Police Department is a reactionary system, not a prevention system. If you do this, we will do this. For any illegal action, there will be certain consequences. This is done in the hopes that the threat of a consequence will be a deterrent to crime. The trouble with that is; if you have somebody that is prepared to die, and intends to die, to carry out whatever plans he has, he is impossible to stop because of the very nature of our legal system. We could only punish him afterwards, and if he kills himself, we are kind of left holding the bag. A punishment based system, just doesn't work if they guy is willing to die.  It's even less effective if he wants to die.

As has been proven many times before, the only way to prevent a crime from occuring or from escalating are for there to be good citizens  at the crime's location, who are legally armed and willing to stop that crime.  So, it appears to me, the only way to 'fix' gun free zones is to abolish them.
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Could they really ban guns? (follow up)

I don't know. I wish I could answer that question. I started this thread You can have my guns when you pry them from my cold, dead hands...or not. to answer that very question.

Unfortunately, it raised more questions than answers...Here is what I have figured out so far...

1. I can't fight off a SWAT team. So if the gov't wants to take them, they can...
2. The blueprint for confiscation is already in place, with precedents.
3. The promises of our officials and our inaliable rights go out the window if martial law is declared, or a national emergency, or any other catch-phrase they want to use.
4. The second that the gov't gained access to weaponry that was too sophisticated or lethal for civilian use, we became 'subjects'.
5. It will probably happen in our lifetime, and I don't think there is a dang thing we can do about it.
6. Any armed resistance would be passed off as crack pots/Keresh/Waco type incidents and would be a rallying point for the Brady Bunch.
7. I don't believe there will be much resistance, because it will happen on a 'local'/temporary scale, and before we knew it wasn't local, or temporary, we would be disarmed.
8. Much like the smoking ban, where it was tried 12 or 13 times, and struck down easily every time, until everybody assumed it would get struck down and stopped paying attention...Then it passed.
9. A Representative form of government has outlived it's usefullness. The reason we went to a representative based gov't was because towns got too big for town meetings. People lived too far away to communicate/travel to vote on issues. Technology has put us all a few keystrokes away.
10. A gov't big enough to give you what you want is big enough to take it away.
11. The ban will probably start with ammo, in the form of restrictions that make it cost prohibitive to purchase. Either by regulating primers and gunpowder as Hazmat, or serialization. Along with higher taxes on ammo.


My solution...get out and vote, put the strongest constitutionalists into power. Work to overturn 'common sense gun laws', because we have to start eroding the traction and getting rid of the precedents that they have already set. Inform as many people as we can about these types of illegal activity by our own gov't. Press our politicians to follow up with these investigations.

My best solution is the following, and it would take work, time, and organization, but here it goes...
If you see an anti/propaganda type show, jot down the commercials that played on air, make a list of these companies, and write to those companies explaining why you will no longer purchase their products.

That's the best I have so far. And unfortunately, during a local crisis or emergency, I'm afraid none of it will be effective.

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"It is only as retaliation that force may be used and only against the man who starts its use. No, I do not share his evil or sink to his concept of morality: I merely grant him his choice, destruction, the only destruction he had the right to choose: his own."

Who is John Galt?

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Banning guns is impossible, right?

I wish I could convince myself of that.

Somebody told me if I woke up one day and found out that guns were being banned then I slept too long...
Well, I wake up every day knowing that if they ban guns that same day, there isn't a thing I can do about it, aside from possibly burying some in my backyard or whatever. And the first time I had to use a hideout I would probably be thrown in jail for not relinquishing my banned weapons.  And that reminds me of a saying I've heard repeated many times, and lately, even more often...
 
"If you are thinking of burying your guns, it is probably time to dig them up."
People tell me that there is no political traction for a gun ban...
But how about the following attempts or successes:

Banning hunting ammo because it can penetrate bullet proof vests
Ammo serialization
Smart guns
Safety locks
High capacity magazines
Outright bans in some cities
Full-auto
Silencers
'saturday night specials'
Background checks
Barrel length
types of ammo
classes of people who the 2nd doesn't apply to
gun-free zones
suing gun manufacturers
registration

I personally think those do establish some sort of traction for the anti's.

The DC vs Heller case really, really scares me. I know what the ruling should be. You do to. It is the only ruling that would be just and make sense, but just because it would be just, doesn't mean that's what it will be.  A cut and dry decision by the SCOTUS could wipe out hundreds of years of gun laws. I don't see that happening. I personally think it will be vague enough to not set a huge precedent. I think they will rule that banning currently legal, operational firearms inside one's home is unconstitutional, and will leave it at that. I would love to hear a ruling saying 'shall not be infringed means shall not be infringed'; I won't hold my breath, though.

I think it is already too late, and I think the more people that realize it, the better off we will be. I see too many people rationalizing more gun legislation as 'common sense' or 'for the good of the people', and I think it would help a lot if people realized how much closer we get to a total ban with each concession we make. I've heard a quote that goes something like this... 'What is a interpretation of the constitution except half way between what it says and what you want it to say' or something to that effect.
 
We've gotten so far away from what the 2nd admendment actually means that it has no meaning anymore except as a rallying point or catch phrase for some conservatives or the NRA.
The only way to win this type of battle is politically. So, you think, well, great. We're doing good on that front, and making enormous progress. And I would tend to agree. In a day to day 'normal' society, I think we are doing pretty well. But in a 'National Emergency', or 'National Fuel Shortage', or any other type of catch-phrase that they decide to use, the 2nd admendment and the politicians promises won't mean a thing.
 
The New Orleans mess has convinced me that our society can be forcibly disarmed, and easily.  Granted, it would have to be on a local level, but what if everybody thought the same things the guys in N.O. thought...That it was only temporary, or that it was localized....Well, I think we're going to see a lot of 'localized' actions, and one day, we'll wake up, and we'll have slept too long.
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YouTube Debate and withdrawing troops

    The Ron Paul's and the democrats must realize pulling our troops out would be catastrophic. There comes a time when everybody must realize that we cannot be either “isolationists” or “independent” of the rest of the world.  Other parts of the world, especially the Middle East, Venezeula, etc have access to the most important resource in the world. Our production of oil, while once one of the largest in the world, peaked in the 1970’s. When the rest of the world’s production peaks, as it will, the country that controls such nations as Iraq will be in decidely better shape. 
    Now Ron Paul does have it right on some points. We were NOT told the real reasons for going to war. We were NOT told why we were occupying the country. But, even though the government chose not to tell us those reasons, it is not hard to deduce. 
    The world is running out of easy, ’sweet’ oil (low in sulphur content that is in a geographically easy place to access and transport). When this happens, production will begin to fall off(not run out, but decline).  With a decline in production and a continued increase in consumption, prices will go sky high and will probably lead to shortages.  
    So, we just drive less, right?  Unfortunately, that won't work.  Our food is all transported by trucks, our crops our produced with the aid of tractors and fertilizers, most of our goods are plastic based.  Our economy is literally and entirely based on oil and economic growth.  We don't have to run out of oil for this to be an issue, we just have to have a difference between supply and demand.  Remember the 70's when OPEC decided to hold out on oil?  There were lines at every gas station, with prices soaring to the $1.60's(Yeah, I know, we all wish we could pay under $2 a gallon today).  And, that was only a 3% difference.  When oil peaks, the difference will be about 3% per year, every year, until it becomes no longer cost and net-energy effective to continue drilling.    
    That is why we must keep a strong foreign presence. That is why we need a strong military, and that is why we can’t withdraw into ourselves. We don’t produce enough, we consume too much, and the only way to offset that is to maintain a strong foreign presence.
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Thanks to all the soldiers and veterans...

Thanks to all of our service members and veterans.  God bless you and we appreciate everything you've done for us.  I normally don't post links or forward e-mails, but I guess I will be guilty on both counts this time.  I recieved this link from a friend and it's a video; entitled "if I die before you wake" written by some of our troops in Iraq.  Speaking as somebody that spent some time over there, this IS how most of us feel about the war-Regardless of what the media says...God Bless America.  And on this upcoming Veterans Day, try to take a moment out of you day to remember, honor and recognize those that are putting their lives on the line for our protection.  A quick prayer, a small note to a soldier oversees...(you have no idea how much that brightens our day)...

http://www.flashdemo.net/gallery/wake/index.htm
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Against the War? the soldiers? or the tactics...

    So many people we hear from say they are against the war, but when you ask them why, a suprisingly large percentage of them freeze up.  They don't know why.  They re-utter the things they have half heard or think they are supposed to say...I don't think most people are against the war.  I don't think most people are against the soldiers, but I do think a lot of people are against the way we are fighting the war.  'They' say we can't win this war.  
    I know we can.  I was on an aircraft carrier for over 4 years.  My ship had more fire power on it than the entire country of Iraq, and that's not even counting our Battle Group.  We can win this war.  We have to win this war.  Unfortunately, we are allowing the news media to tell us 'how' we can fight this war.  When our leadership is more worried about media spin than attacking our enemies, it ties our soldiers hands behind their back and we end up fighting a reactive war rather than a proactive one.  To all the main stream media...Let us fight this war the way we need to fight it, the way we did the first time...
    We should be in Iraq.  We have to be in Iraq, and not only because of 9/11, but because Iraq broke the rules.  When we stopped bombing in Desert Storm, Iraq agreed to some very simple guidelines.  They didn't follow through and unfortunately the Clinton administration didn't follow up.
    If we leave now, we would be sending a horrible signal to those that want to take our lives; either literally or figuratively through terror.  That signal..."Harass the troops long enough, get the media involved, hold out long enough, and eventually the United States will leave us alone."  If we withdraw from Iraq without completely winning, we will be fighting this war on Main Street in every town and city in this country.
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